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This was a conversation I had with 6 generations of myself. XD
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PerfectPinkWater Featured By Owner Edited Aug 12, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I like how the point of this picture is that, despite the generation differences, we all agree that the 00's still suck.

90's kid here, and even though I still think THE 90'S WERE THE BEST, REPRESENT, 80's were the forefather and are definitely worthy being awesome, too. Even though I never experienced them first-hand, shhhh.
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Sekele Featured By Owner Sep 13, 2014
Congratulation on you'r utter failure to get the picture's point in the first place 

The point is that every single generation will hate everything that was made after their time
In fact, the 2000s kids are already hating on the 2010s, and claim that the 2000s were the greatest decade ever 
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PerfectPinkWater Featured By Owner Sep 13, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
And congratulations on you for completely missing my point of my comment. What I was trying to say is that, despite these different decades bickering to each other, one thing they could all agree on is that 00's and beyond suck.
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Sekele Featured By Owner Sep 13, 2014
And I say that that's bullshit 
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PerfectPinkWater Featured By Owner Sep 13, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
And by saying that, you debunk what you said earlier, which was pretty much what I just said.
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Sekele Featured By Owner Sep 13, 2014
what I basically wanna say is, that the message of this picture is NOT "the 2000s suck"
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PerfectPinkWater Featured By Owner Sep 15, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
And what I was saying is that's the general consensuses among older generations.
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Sekele Featured By Owner Sep 15, 2014
which itself really just comes from the fact that each generation pretty much hates all that came after their time 
this itself was documented ever since the days of ancient Greece 

also, there's a nice little song about it from way before the baby-boomer days 
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHtaaC…
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tymime Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist

Here’s the absolutely essential distinction that I think should be made: Rather than saying that one’s childhood was the best (it never is), I think it’s the MEDIA and ENTERTAINMENT that is REALLY being compared.


It’s my personal opinion that the 90’s had the very best children’s television programming. Why? Because all the very best cartoons from every single generation- from the cartoons made by WB, MGM, and Disney in the ’30s, ’40s, and ’50s, as well as the very best of Hanna-Barbera from the ’60s and ’70s, to Disney Afternoon, Disney’s Renaissance feature films, Cartoon Network, and Nickelodeon- were ALL on television and/or video tape, available for kids to see very easily.


My childhood sucked. Why? Because I was bullied to no end. I was a total social outcast because I was terrible at social interaction and liked oldies music. But I could go home and escape all that by watching the very best cartoons ever made. THAT’S why I love the ’90s.


And because almost all those cartoons are missing from television (although you often see ‘em trickling out now and then, and most of ‘em are on DVD now), and we see mediocre cartoons taking their place, I think “kids these days” are missing out.

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Sekele Featured By Owner Sep 13, 2014
You do realized that all of those shows are now available on-line in one way or another, with the addition of also having some of the best 2000s and 2010s programming available that was not around back then 

Also, as someone who grew up in the 90s, I can say, the current shows are much better 
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tymime Featured By Owner Sep 13, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
1. Are kids aware of these shows being hosted online? Can they find them and do they know they can be found? Do they know that these shows exist so that they can look for them in the first place? Are they from official sources or are they illegal uploads (which are much harder to find) that will no doubt be removed sooner or later?
2. As someone who grew up in the '90s, I find your tastes in TV terrible. Not to mention sad and repulsive. There are only a handful of shows on right now that I feel compare to anything from back then. You are not a child of the '90s, even if you were literally a child during that decade.
3. What was your motivation in posting this, other than to make me and anyone who reads this upset? Why bother if you're not making anything better? (I'd ask the same question of Kevin, actually.)
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Sekele Featured By Owner Sep 13, 2014
1.
Disney used to have all of their old shows available on their website 
They were taken down since, but instead, they started airing those shows on the Disney Replay block on the Disney Channel 
Cartoon Network is still promoting some of their old shows on their website, and had the Cartoon Planet block from 2012 till 2014 
Wikipedia pretty much has all of these shows cataloged, and most of them can be found on streaming sites 
Kids do know how to use the net, and it's not like the info is hard to find 

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And I find you to b a very sad individual unable to let go of the past and see the good in the present 
www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pa6SG…
There were plenty of things from the 90s that I enjoyed, but I don't allow nostalgia to blind me. 
I know that each decade has something good to offer, even in the department of animation. 
Not everything in the past was a gem, and there are things in the present that surpass the past 

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I wish to inform you, as you'r opinion seemed to stem from a lack of information 
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tymime Featured By Owner Sep 14, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
1. DO THE KIDS KNOW THE SHOWS EXIST? The old shows are hardly promoted at all by anyone except Nickelodeon. Meager efforts like Cartoon Planet are not enough to keep children aware of these shows (obviously, since the block, as you say, has ended). It's not as if a kid is going to casually Google a show he's never heard of and instantly find a means to watch it.
2. Disney Replay entirely contains shows from the 2000s, and mostly terrible live-action shows that only ended very recently, so I hardly think that counts. I'm surprised you don't even mention The '90s Are All That. Other examples might include The Hub (some old shows) and channels like Antenna TV and MeTV.
3. It's ironic that you send me that video- I actually agree with it somewhat. I feel where it's coming from. It's always good to laugh at yourself.
4. My love of old shows (not just the '90s) is not based in the slightest on not letting go of anything. I genuinely feel that most shows today are not as good- it has nothing to do with any rose-colored glasses. It's not like I actually think everything in the past was better, just the vast majority. There are some new shows that I like better than, say, The Smurfs. I've already made that clear.
One of the things I love about the '90s is that the best animation from the '30s to the '80s were all equally valid and represented on television and video, instilling in me a love for the art and entertainment of the past.
5. Why do you hate nostalgia? If you remember something that has since gone, it brings you comfort and happiness. Anyone who despises that must be very unhappy indeed.
6. It's obvious, and a fact, as I've just made clear, that your opinions stem from a lack of information.
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BurningResurrection Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2014
Interesting thing you mention The Hub, because it recently went bankrupt

Their reliance on re-runs of old shows is being quoted as the main reason for the network's failure
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tymime Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I wrote that a couple months ago. The circumstances of my argument *then* aren't necessarily relevant now.
IMO (not a hard fact, mind you), part of the problem was that they took off the superior reruns, like Happy Days and Hercules, and shoved Tiny Toons to the early morning, replacing most of 'em with shows I had never heard of (even the past had it's share of mediocrity). That was my personal reason for no longer watching the reruns. Meanwhile, channels like MeTV and Antenna TV are still going strong. So while obviously the majority of people were watching the Hasbro shows, nobody I know is happy with the change, and everywhere I look people mourn The Hub.
I simply can't believe that fifty years of TV stations successfully airing reruns would come to an abrupt halt. The generation gap couldn't possibly be THAT big. Take a look at me! I'm in my twenties and I enjoy cartoons from the 1910s. Sure, I may be an exception to the rule, but I see lots of young people who are into vintage things!

Besides, shouldn't it be more concerning to you, personally, that American TV executives are causing a major rift between new parents and their children without regards to the children's actual opinions, rather than bother with trying to dismantle a '90s Kid's argument? What benefit is it to you? If you agree with Kevin, wouldn't it be more important to you to unite generations instead of antagonizing somebody with an old-school slant? What does it matter why a network failed? Even if you're correct, and the The Hub failed because of reruns, isn't the diminishing popularity of reruns a sign of unhealthy intergenerational relationships, rather than a chance to shoot down a nostalgic person's point of view? If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem.
Would your avatar, for instance, be quite the same without the retro 3-D glasses, which were invented around the 1950s?

I don't mindlessly hate ALL new shows. I merely abhor the thought of art that pays no respects to what came before it.
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Sekele Featured By Owner Sep 14, 2014
1. Actually, I have the impression that Nickelodeon is the worst at treating their old shows. They all but removed any mention of their no longer airing shows from their website.
And I do think the kids know at least about the most famous ones (you know, the ones that stood the test of time).
Again. kids today are internet savvy, and there's a fairly big chance they'll come across one of those shows. The Disney Wikia (which is commonly frequented by children) is full of cross-links and info you'd come across even if you aren't exactly looking for it (I for example found out that there used to be a Disney Princess manga published in Japan, and I wasn't even looking for Disney Princes material to begin with).
Most kids I personally know, know about Scooby Doo, The Loony Tunes, Duck Tales, or The Powerpuff Girls, despite those shows existing before they were born. 

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Yeah, completely forgot about "90s Are All That"
Also, Cartoon Planet technically did not end, but was rather moved to Boomerang, which is already a channel dedicated to re-runs of older shows 
I do know that Disney's website also had shows from the late 80s and 90s, along with shows from the 00s. The "Disney Replay" block is often quoted as the reason for their removal, as Disney wanted to actually show them on TV. 
And yes, The Hub, with the tendency of airing numerous 80s shows, is a good example of past shows still being accessible. 

3. 
The thing is that the video is mocking this kind of attitude, but I do think it's best if we both refrain from ad-hominem attacks 

4. 
I do actually love allot of shows from my childhood, and from the past in general (some I only discovered years later), but even then I saw flaws in them, whether it was in the animation, or in the story-telling. 
Many of the shows had more detailed artwork, but the animation was kinda lackluster. The characters would often be pretty stiff. Of course, some of the Disney and WB. shows were very well animated, but they were the exception, rather than the rule. 
There were also many writing trends that peeved me. Like when a show would introduce a character, and then forget they existed. (Like, for example, Mandark's sister in Dexter's Lab, and I liked Dexter's Lab)
Of how a character was supposed to learn a lesson in an episode, yet in reality they never learned anything, and just kept repeating the same mistakes. 
Not to mention all the censorship. During the 90s, Spiderman wasn't even allowed to punch people. 

Show nowadays do have simpler character designs, but that is largely because that way, they are easier to animate. Often the shows nowadays tend to actually be better animated than the shows from the 90s 
(just try comparing an action scene from Spiderman TAS to an action scene from, for example, Motor City, or The Legend of Korra)
Also, there's finally genuine character development and continuity. 
And while these things were present during the 90s, they were almost exclusively reserved for big dramatic shows like for example The Gargoyles 
Nowadays, even shows that are marketed as comedies actually get to have this level of depth. 
I actually genuinely feel that I missed-out as a child by not having these current shows around back then. 

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As I already said, I do love things from the past, but I love them because of their own merits. 
It does not matter when something was made, but rather how well something was made. 
Often people will claim that something from the past was better than something from the present, despite the fact that the thing from the present is of the same quality, or even better. 
Nostalgia warps ones view of reality. 

6. I believe I'm informed enough, even tho I may have some gaps when it comes to scheduling (as someone who lives outside the USA, I get most of my content and info on-line)
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tymime Featured By Owner Sep 14, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Yeah, I believe most countries outside the US have it far better when it comes to animation. Boomerang's schedule, for example, has far less classic shows than it did when it started. The availability of past animation has all but dried up in some respects, but it's not as bad as it once was.
Nickelodeon is most definitely the exception to this rule. There are DVDs of all their best shows, and most of them air regularly on The '90s Are All That, which has a website, a Facebook page, a Tumblr blog and a Twitter account.

Bad writing and animation is still alive and well today.

As I've made it clear several times now, I don't judge a show based on when it was made. I simply believe that there were more good shows back then than there are now, and that in that decade, they also weren't afraid of airing anything older than something made 5 years ago. It's the sheer amount that you could see back then that's missing today.
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Sekele Featured By Owner Sep 14, 2014
The issue here is that those writing problems were much more common in the past, even in the good shows 

It's kinda like writers now are starting to realize this, and are beginning to fix it. 
Which makes sense, seeing how many of today's writers grew-up during that era, and probably had the same complaints 

These problems do not necessarily mean that the old shows were bad, but it does mean that newer shows got an edge over them. 
It's actually pretty refreshing to see character's actions have consequences, and them having to deal with them, while at the same time, still maintaining an episodic formula 
Each episode can be enjoyed on it's own without seeing the rest, yet gain an extra dimension if viewed in the right order 
The only 90s show I remember doing this was Rocko's Modern Life, and even that was mostly just the stuff focused around the relationship between Filburt and Doctor Hutchinson  
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Sekele Featured By Owner Jul 15, 2013
best part, it seems that the pre-babyboomers had the same problems, as this charming little song demonstrates [link]
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Annorelka Featured By Owner Jul 6, 2013  Student Artist
I'm seeing more and more pictures like this and start to think that after present-days-kids-hate we will have nostalgia-hate. And like some nostalgists hate things that came after "their" generation, more and more people seem start to hate everything "old" and call it "dated" and "overrated".
I think both ways of thinking is bad. People can hate other people so much because of interest differences. They treat nostalgists or present-days-lovers like murders, Hitler, Stalin, devils, the biggest evil on this world. I'm scared how much they can hate other people because of more serious reasons like religion, race or nationality. This comic has a good idea to show that present-days-kids-hate is unfair, absurd and unnecessary. But at the same time it provoke hate to nostalgists. Saying about people "nostalgic brats with attrachment to junk culture" is just as bad as saying "today kids are stupid".
In my opinion every kind of hate is bad.
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Sekele Featured By Owner Jul 15, 2013
to be fair, these things come in waves

here's a little example (listen to the lyrics) [link]
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Annorelka Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2013  Student Artist
But still, every hating is bad.
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Sekele Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2013
true, but with all the intense hate directed at the new, a backlash was to be expected 
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Annorelka Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2013  Student Artist
Somebody have to be more intelligent and break this cycle. You know, don't answer with hate, because somebody was hater of what you like. :(

Personally, I like both new and "retro" things the same way.
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Sekele Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2013
yes, but the will has to come from both sides 
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Annorelka Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2013  Student Artist
Somebody have to start. :)
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Sekele Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2013
trust me, people tried 
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FractiousLemon Featured By Owner Jun 25, 2013
God, yes. God DAMMIT yes!
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Sekele Featured By Owner Jul 15, 2013
things never change [link]
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Darkton93 Featured By Owner Jun 23, 2013
I can't wait for the next generation to add to this. I bet there'll be a lot of claims of "First Black President!" going around.
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M-102 Featured By Owner Jun 10, 2013
Impressive.
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DarkDijinArtie89 Featured By Owner May 6, 2013  Student General Artist
This makes me feel a lot better about myself simply because I knew the past wasn't always great as today is... And I had the unfortunate tragedy of growing up through the 90s and being lumped into the rest of "generation me" when I clearly don't belong there to begin with.
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EotenHazel Featured By Owner Apr 29, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
I always figured my harsh, condescending ridicule toward 80's/90's culturisms was the result of being born in 1983.

I mean, I grew up in those years. But then again, I remember them.

XD
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Strudel--Cutie4427 Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2013   Writer
I'm in the "69-90s were pretty good" collum. Practically anything after that is just >.< know what I mean?
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BurningResurrection Featured By Owner May 5, 2013
and thus you completely missed the point of this picture

congratulations
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Strudel--Cutie4427 Featured By Owner May 5, 2013   Writer
I got the point. But I still wanted to say my point
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BurningResurrection Featured By Owner May 7, 2013
and I may
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Strudel--Cutie4427 Featured By Owner May 13, 2013   Writer
Actually, take a look at this :) [link]
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Strudel--Cutie4427 Featured By Owner May 10, 2013   Writer
I watch the first and I love that comic XD

I'll reply to the second later, my internet is slow atm :(
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Strudel--Cutie4427 Featured By Owner May 10, 2013   Writer
I watch the first and I love that comic XD

I'll reply to the second later, my internet is slow atm :(
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KaijuGuy19 Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2013
This SO true. :D
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Captain-Savvy Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I was born in '87 but I am a 90s kid. I do miss the 90s, and the things (cartoons, music, etc.) I enjoyed back then. (I also miss being a kid with no real responsibilities. :XD: ) I don't like most of what's popular these days, but to each their own. I do think that the over exposure to the internet and electronics in today's world is making kids (and many adults) more brain-dead and unhealthy than ever. I barely ever see kids playing outside anymore. That makes me sad...
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AmethystForge Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2013
I'll 2nd all of that (born in '86, and my husband in '85)
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BurningResurrection Featured By Owner May 5, 2013
but thanks to the internet, people are also much harder to fool
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wishfulthinkiner Featured By Owner Mar 8, 2013
Thank you for this! The world REALLY REALLY REALLY needed this!!!
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AgileRhino Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2013
The REALLY scary thing is that someday people might look back on THIS decade as "the good ol' days." :iconscaredplz:
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Sekele Featured By Owner Mar 6, 2013
I'm already horrified by the fact that people consider the 80s and 70s "the good ol' days."
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Shadoboy Featured By Owner Feb 17, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Whoa, hold on there! I need a bigger calculator to know how many internets you just earned there!
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Luigi-the-Chef Featured By Owner Feb 13, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
The 90's were amazing.
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Sekele Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2013
don't tell that to 80s Dan
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