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Ensign Cubed Crisis of Infinite Sues 24 by kevinbolk Ensign Cubed Crisis of Infinite Sues 24 by kevinbolk
The final chapter in the Ensign Sue Saga (Sue-ga?) continues!  Brought to you by :iconcomicalclare: and :iconkevinbolk: 

Read the NEXT page at care of Interrobang Studios!

Read the first arc "Ensign Sue Must Die!" here!

Read the second arc "Ensign Two: The Wrath of Sue" here!
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Octoboy-the-8th Featured By Owner Sep 23, 2014
Kind of cool that Kirk kind of inadvertently helped things by not saving his crew, thus making their endeavours no longer a one-man effort common of Sues. Maybe they're on the right track here. 
lululetti Featured By Owner Jul 23, 2014  Hobbyist Photographer
um, right, captain :giggle:
The-Golden-Knight Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2014
:happycry: Super speech, Captain. :salute:
Feurdelis Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2014
Is it wrong for me to want to pair these two now?
OsmiumMachine Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Not to my knowledge
windalchemist001 Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2014
i can't wait till the next page
RoguishBard Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
:music:Make a joyful sound
Mary Sue is going DOWN
bkuhn Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2014
McCoy, Uhura, let me make this simple for you: Sue is no longer a threat, the Captain trusts her, and you should, too.
Arak-8 Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2014
Heh-heh,yeah that's exactly how Kirk should've put it to those two hard cases. Good one.
bkuhn Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2014
BalloonPrincess Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2014  Hobbyist Filmographer

Another inspiring speech brought to you by Captain Kirk!  :)
ScarabDynasty1 Featured By Owner Edited Jul 20, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
You know, thinking on it, this makes a pretty good point. Many, many of us wrote Sues, many of us have a Sue (or sixteen) in our history. They're the product of unskilled writing and an honest desire to be a part of a world you love. They're trite character clichés but they're the product of enthusiasm and love. Lots of us sweep them under the rug and try to pretend we never created them, but I'm also sure a lot of us have taken a character of ours who was a Sue, and made something decent and developed out of them when we got older and more experienced.

What we're seeing here is basically a really good example of character progression and writer-development. This is how learning works.

(There's also the fact that there are plenty of real MALE characters I've seen in fiction who have all the stereotypical traits of a Sue yet somehow are not considered it, and yet get away with it more. But that's another issue altogether.)
Parsat Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2014   Writer
Some good stuff here.
JBGamer Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
DA...PLEASE implement faving comments.
ThuhJesheekuh Featured By Owner Jul 21, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I've been spending too much time on reddit. I keep trying to upvote comments on DA.
Phantasim-Fan Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2014
Does it strike anyone as ironic that this over the top parody of a Mary Sue has actually become a legitimate Mary Sue?
ScarabDynasty1 Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Methinks you may be missing the point a little.
Phantasim-Fan Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2014
How so?
ScarabDynasty1 Featured By Owner Edited Jul 21, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Well, this comic seems to me to be about how characters, even Sueish ones, can develop into complex believable beings, rather than just glorified self-inserts. The odd thing is, one of the most important factors of any character to me (the thing we often don't realise when we're young and creating these supa awesome powerful Mary Sues, male or female, who we're so sure EVERYONE will like) is that our characters FLAWS are just as important, if not more important, than their positive traits.

In most works of fiction there is something my tutor at Uni called the "Antagonistic Force": this is something working against the heroes to stop them getting what they want/need, but it' not always a villain, and it's not always singular. One of our toughest antagonistic forces can come from within. How we confront our negative traits (in Mary's case, her selfishness) and how we deal with them in relation to our other personality traits, is the recipe for character development. That is what Mary has undergone here, and in doing so she's become more than just a shell or self insert. She's become an actual Person.

The character being accepted by the captain now after she's admitted her mistakes and realised what she was doing was not okay does not make her an actual bonafied Sue now, in makes her someone who has undergone character development and the crew has responded as the crew of the Star Ship Enterprise  WOULD realistically respond - acceptance and forgiveness from some, wary confusion (but no hostility: remember this is Star Trek, parody or no) from others (one problem with Sue's I find is that they often make canon characters  behave unrealistically and unlike themselves in the Sue's presence.)

(Sorry for the long comment I got a chance to ramble about antagonistic forces and I took it.)
Phantasim-Fan Featured By Owner Jul 27, 2014
Eh, I'm not convinced. A cleverly written sue is still a sue. This series has taken it one step further by introducing characters from other shows that fan fic-ers love to play with. Most other fandoms were glossed over, but of course Sherlock and Doctor Who got top billing. To me it feels like the writer forgot she was making a parody.
ScarabDynasty1 Featured By Owner Jul 28, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I think those series got top billing because a) Sherlock's actor played someone IN Star Trek whom they could thus use for a villain, b) Doctor Who manipulates time and space, which is convenient for plot twists and c) Sure, the author likes them... so what, though? What does that have to do with Mary? The other fandoms featured because the idea is there's a multiversal plot going on, but focussing on all of them would have been confusing. Whether the writer is fond of the fandoms they did focus on is also irrelevant to their ability. Fanfic is all about self indulgence, but the best writers know the limits of the universe they're in and don't allow their own personal desires to steer what would ACTUALLY happen.

Maybe you're right that this isn't so much a 'parody' anymore, but tbh that was only natural. That's how writing works. A parody is, by nature, quite a shallow thing. A parody, however affectionate, is based on the destruction of an assumption or media. Parodies are important imo, but you can only go so far ripping up peoples' ideas and throwing their illogicality to the light (well, SOME fandoms are so full of holes you could probably parody them until doomsday but eventually, you'll just start to seem mean spirited). Eventually you have to do more. A good example is the Discworld series which Pratchett began as a parody of popular fantasy but which over time, had to develop into it's own functioning universe to continue, with the modern books often having few to no parody elements at all (and still being, in my opinion, extremely good stories. Better than the early parodies even). 

Question: What exactly IS your understanding of what makes a character a Mary Sue? I think you and I may be operating under different definitions here.

My definition is that the real defining trait of a Sue is that she is the product of selfishness on the part of her creator and thus warps the universe she's in around her importance. She (or he) basically makes it 'all about them' (which is the villains plot here and obviously put across as a very bad thing). A Sue also makes characters behave in ways which may be out of character. But... nobody's being out of character here anymore.  Nobody's choices are based on loving Mary, they're based on what the characters would logically do in this situation anyway. Her behaviour and their behaviours are not the behaviours of a Mary Sue anymore, so far as I understand it.
Phantasim-Fan Featured By Owner Aug 2, 2014
I'll be honest with you. I didn't care to read any of that.
ScarabDynasty1 Featured By Owner Aug 3, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Okay then:

tl:dr: You're not defining a Mary Sue correctly and thus judging the writer unfairly.
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Squ1dP0ny Featured By Owner Jul 19, 2014  Student General Artist
Has anyone else noticed that her hair and "birthmark" have stopped changing?
SchwarzerRitter Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2014
Several pages ago.
She is not a Mary Sue anymore.
neogs99 Featured By Owner Jul 19, 2014  Hobbyist Filmographer
One of the best strips yet!
DreamAmongStars Featured By Owner Jul 19, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
Any suggestions on what to do with my life once this suega ends?
KajininNoKonoha Featured By Owner Jul 19, 2014

....or something. That's all I got.
Arak-8 Featured By Owner Edited Jul 19, 2014
Bones and Uhura,they're both just too hard to please,the way I see it.
Raygreens Featured By Owner Jul 19, 2014
My GOD I love what you did with ensign Sue!
skygal333 Featured By Owner Jul 19, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
Last panel:  Basically my friends after they hear one of my 'crazy ideas'
gamma102 Featured By Owner Jul 19, 2014
ScottMcArthur8 Featured By Owner Jul 19, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
These keep getting better and better! :D
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